Uphill, Downhill, What’s It All About? by Billy Burt

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We often refer to the terms cutting uphill or downhill when we discuss woodturning; what does this mean, exactly, and how does this involve another frequently used concept, the supported or unsupported cut?

It all has to do with the fibers in the wood, and whether they are being cleanly cut or torn out. Below is an example of what we might see on the lathe:

piece of woodImagine this piece of wood held between centers with the headstock on the left, tailstock on the right. Notice the grain direction. This is a spindle turning. The grain runs parallel to the bed ways from left to right. In this circumstance, we would cut in the direction shown in the next image.

Sample of downhill cutNotice the angle of the cut and observe the grain. We are cutting across the grain at a downward angle.

This is a “downhill” cut. It is also a “supported” cut, meaning that the grain being sliced is supported by the grain beneath it. A downhill cut is also referred to as cutting from “high to low.”

Cutting downhill gives us a smooth cut that, if we are presenting our tools correctly, needs little or no sanding.

You should never attempt a cut like the one shown in the next image.

Sample of an uphill cutCutting against the grain is an uphill, or unsupported, cut. The wood fibers (grain) being cut are not supported by the grain above them because they are being forced up toward the surface. This causes tear out.


Wood with lines drawn for cutSo how does this translate to bowl turning? The next image illustrates a bowl blank on the lathe in what we refer to as straight or cross grain configuration. Notice that the grain direction runs perpendicular to the lathe bed (forward and back). Think about the uphill, downhill discussion above. Again, imagine the headstock on the left and the tailstock on the right.

We want to cut the outside downhill so that we have supported fibers as depicted to the left.

Drawing of a supported external cutNotice that the fibers will become unsupported as we near the left side, or top of the bowl. This is why you often see turners make a cleaning cut on that side as we are “roughing” out the shape. All of our cuts on the outside of the bowl should be downhill.

What about the inside of a bowl? Why are the inside cuts sometimes referred to as uphill? Examine the image to the left.

Sample of a supported internal cut I have heard turners refer to this as cutting uphill. Maybe because it is cutting in the opposite direction of the outside cut. Call it what you will, it is still a supported cut, because the fibers below are supporting the cut. A supported cut will always give you a better finish, If your tools are sharp and your technique is good.

Sample of an  unsupported internal cut

There are always exceptions; soft, punky wood can be very problematic. Burls and highly figured woods can also be problematic. This is why sharp tools and light cuts are important.

On the other hand, I have seen turners cut in the direction shown here on the left, especially once the inside is mostly gone.

What is wrong with this picture? If you said the cut is unsupported by the grain above the direction of the cut, you are correct. In my mind, this is a true uphill cut. And yes, when scraping, many, including this author, may “cut” this direction when doing a final scrape to try and smooth tear out.

With the exception of the problematic woods mentioned earlier, tear out is a result of the fibers being “torn” rather than sliced. One of the most common reasons we get tear out is unsupported cuts, cutting “uphill,” or cutting against the grain.

Being aware of grain direction is absolutely critical in ALL forms of woodworking. If you try to use a plane on a board where the grain direction is angled even slightly up against the direction of the plane, you will get torn grain – this would be an unsupported cut.

The same holds true for our woodturning tools. And yes, when turning bowls in traditional straight grain mode, we are dealing with four different directions of grain. Two running perpendicular to the bed ways, and two that are end grain. The end grain sides of the bowl are usually the most difficult to cut cleanly.

Remember the grain direction of your piece, keep your tools sharp, and you should be able to reduce and even eliminate tear out in your turning.